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Limited Liability Partnerships

vs. Limited Companies?

 

 

 

 

 

Briefing Note


 

 

 

 

INTRODUCTION

Recent changes in Company Law have introduced a new kind of corporate entity – the limited liability partnership or LLP. This is in essence a legal entity just like a partnership with the important advantage that the partners liability is limited to the assets of the LLP, rather than the partners having unlimited liability of their personal assets to supporting the partnership if it got into problems.

The killer advantage behind the LLP is that partners in an LLP continue to be taxed  as though they were still self-employed whereas a conventional limited company forces the proprietor shareholders to be remunerated through PAYE topped up by dividends, and thus pay a higher rate of tax.

The notes attached cover this in more detail.

 

 

 


LIMITED LIABILITY PARTNERSHIP - LLP

This is a partnership with no share capital formed for you, which you own. You, or persons of your choice, own the LLP.

 

 

The advantages of  your own LLP:-

 

n    No problems with PAYE on drawings or dividend calculations. You get taxed as self-employed. This reduces your overall personal tax liability each year. PAYE taxes at basic rate are 22%+11%+12.8%=45.8%. Self-employed rates are 22%+8%=30%. See example

n    you can choose your name with few restrictions

n    pension options are fairly open

n    fixed asset purchases such as computers and motor vehicles are straightforward

n    you have complete control over the funds of the LLP

n    any losses from your share of the results of the LLP are offsettable against the rest of your income just like real self-employed people.

n    Similarly if the LLP owns property where Capital Gains is involved, it is part of your personal CGT situation rather than the LLP. If you make a large Gain of course this is a big drama.

 

In the uncertain middle is S.660 risks.

Briefly HMIT is targeting companies where some of the dividends will go to a scarcely working partner disproportionately to the work effort applied. Whether this new regime will apply to LLPs with similar profit-sharing arrangements remains to be seen.

 

 

A .pdf of this note is here


 

Some disadvantages of your LLP are:-

 

n    virtually none of any significance!! Below the niggling minor points are detailed.

n    If it turns out you only need the LLP for a short period you are still lumbered with paying a whole year of our fees as most work on a LLP takes place whether 6 or 12 months trading is in a set of accounts. Similarly two sets of accounts = two fees unfortunately

n    Because you are taxed as self-employed ALL the profits of the LLP get taxed each year. This means an LLP is unlikely to suit persons with taxable profits per partner over £40-50,000pa.

n    Some of your customers may be a little uncertain about dealing with an LLP as they are a new type of entity in UK. For one-man contractors working for agencies this could be a problem

n    You do need two members, so you need a friend. We can act as your sleeping member.

n    You do need a partnership agreement briefly covering profit allocations, and ownership, and break-up matters.

n    Being taxed as self-employed means you only pay tax at end of January and July each year. In future you will have little idea of how tax bills are worked out because the self-assessment system seems to conspire against you to stop you understanding what’s going on. The two bills per year will seem like a lot of money when you write the cheques out sobbing into your Stella sitting next to the pool at your Spanish villa.

n    All governance regulations re Companies House are just as tedious as they are with a limited company. Therefore if your year end is 28th February the filing deadline is 28th December each year unless it’s a leap year in which  case it’s 29th December drone drone drone…..

n    You have to file annual accounts with Companies House so your financial details are more public than before.

n    The names index is the same one as for limited companies. This means that Fred Smith LLP is already taken by Fred Smith Ltd.

n    As with a company your details are on public file.

n    And also the Annual Return to CoHo is £35 for some bizarre un-justifiable reason.

 


LIMITED COMPANY

This is a company with a share capital formed for you, which you own. You, or persons of your choice, own the issued share capital, and you are a director of the company. You operate the company on your behalf paying your expenses, salary and dividends, tailored to your needs.  There are, however, a number of important matters to consider when thinking of setting up your company.

 

 

The advantages of  your own limited company:-

 

n    you can choose your own company name with few restrictions

n    pension options are fairly open

n    fixed asset purchases such as computers and motor vehicles are straightforward

n    you may wish to be a director

n    dividends can be paid to others who are shareholders in the company. This can assist with tax planning.

n    Profits accumulated in the company only bear tax at Corporation Tax rates, this can help at least defer higher rate tax liabilities.

n    you have complete control over the funds of the company

n    formation is cheaper than for an LLP.

n    Annual return to CoHo a snip at £15pa.

n    Capital Gains are insulated within the company, and only bear tax at CT rates.

 

 

 

 

Some disadvantages of your limited company are:-

 

n    you are a director of the company

n    as the company usually has only one or two employees, and is controlled by you it is not usually suitable for contracting whilst overseas.

n    IR35 enquiries from Inland Revenue a possibility now their odious and bureaucratic scheme has started. Well-drawn accounts prepared by a good accountant here will help!!

n    Dividend calculations are your responsibility, assisted by ourselves. Some contractors find this quite a problem area, and could therefore consider using one of our umbrella companies until comfortable with the dividend system

n    If it turns out you only need the company for a short period you are still lumbered with paying a whole year of our fees as most work on a limited company takes place whether 6 or 12 months trading is in a set of accounts. Similarly two sets of accounts = two fees unfortunately.

 

 

 

 

In summary the case for using LLPs is strong so take the step to independence and running your own business. No more 30 days holiday year, 35-hour weeks, free training, free pencils, coffee, sick pay, maternity leave……..

 

 

 

 

 

 

A SHORT TAX EXAMPLE

Below is a brief example of how things compare with the two corporate vehicles.

n    PAYE on drawings, dividend calculations or partnership share? You get taxed as self-employed. This reduces your overall personal tax liability each year. PAYE taxes at basic rate are 22%+11%+12.8%=45.8%. Self-employed rates are 22%+8%=30%.

 

 

The choice is up to you! – call us on +44(0) 207 719 8282  and talk your own situation through with friendly staff who understand the issues

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